Christian's Rock?

07/18/07

Permalink 04:38:59 pm, by Eric Email , 312 words, 438 views   English (US)
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Christian's Rock?

Do we need the Christian rock industry? Granted, I am saying this not as a huge fan of Christian rock in general, but as a huge fan of The David Crowder Band (Worship band), as well as a rap duo by the name of Mars Ill who are Christians that happen to do rap music (which is a way artists separate themselves from the Christian music industry, yet attempt to make solid music with Christian values.)

I realize one blog can't answer this question, but it can start discussion. :)

I was listening to a local Christian station, which I do often, when a U2 song came on. But it wasn't U2 singing the song, it was a Christian band doing a cover of the song. Apparently, as I have read, because the spirituality of the band isn't explicit, mostly because it's members drink, smoke, and swear. The three unpardonable sins, I guess.

Now, why would taking U2's lyrics and have them sung by a band that apparently doesn't drink, smoke, and swear, make the music anymore spiritual?

Why would a "Christian" singing a song that is biblically off (it happens more often than you think, just listen) give me any insight to Christianity or point me to God at all? Wouldn't that be pointing me to a false god? Or when I hear a Christian sing a song with lyrics that you would hear coming from any band, how is that any different from a non-christian singing similar lyrics?

Yes, I do see the value in worship music, but I also see the value when truth speaks to me through "secular" (a term which I don't like) music as well.

And if this is true with music, why not a Christian plumbing business? Christian Insurance agencies? Christian Restaurants?

Shoot, while we are at it let's just create our own Christian sub-culture!

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Comment from: Eric [Visitor] Email
Amen Courtney!
You pegged it and me perfectly. But I wouldn't expect any less from you.

Me neither, John. ;)

Maybe Christian radio is taking steps, and dropping one board at a time. If this is so, maybe money IS the over riding factor because they gain their support from their listeners and the fear of going full board is likely to lose a lot of their sponsors. And if there are boards dropping, in my opinion, it has got to be all or nothing, anything less is hypocritical.

Maybe it would be better for them, to be "the positive alternative" radio station and play those types of songs, than for it to be called "Christian" radio.
PermalinkPermalink 08/09/07 @ 12:29
Comment from: john [Visitor] Email
Regarding "Home" being played on Air One, as well as songs by The Fray, that I am trying to find the direct Christian influence but can't, maybe that is why they choose the tag line "The Positive Alternative". It doesn't claim to be all about Christ, yet they take every opportunity to talk about Christ. It's funny that Courtney used the term "cross over artists", since that was what I was thinking, but he makes a good point now that we have determined that other artists not directly associated with Christianity are getting airplay on Air One but others like U2 are not. I don't neccesarily agree that money drives ALL content, but it can have influence. Keep in mind that Air One relies on our donations to operate. Maybe Air One is making the moves on our side of the fence that Courtney was talking about, but they are just removing one board at a time, recognizing that our culture may not be able to handle a total dropping of the gaurd by us Christians, given the history of the church and the non-believers perception of it.

As for stereotypes of hunters that are Christian or otherwise, none that I know fit your description, Eric. LOL.
PermalinkPermalink 08/08/07 @ 22:42
Comment from: Courtney Stubbert [Visitor] Email
Eric,
Are you trying to find the problem in giving fixed labels to things? As to define what is or is not "Christian" emphatically? Like, saying a given thing is or is not "Christian" when there is no clear directive from scripture? That is a struggle for everyone I think. Your "line in the sand" distinguishes cultural constructions and stereotypes, all which exist, however if we trace those lines of thinking back into history and compare past knowledge of scripture with current knowledge (scholarship, linguistics, anthropology) I find it harder and harder to pin "truth" on much of what our culture deems "Christian".

Jill, I know the Christian music industry has a long and glorious practice of "claiming" certain artists are believers. On one level, any social group wants their beliefs to have famous representation. There is a trend right now to have "cross-over" artists. I know nothing about Daughtry, except that he is an American Idol contestant (which means artistically bankrupt in my opinion-but hey, that's just me). If the song is as you say, not at all about anything spiritual, but perhaps only hopefully interpreted that way, is obnoxious considering the U2 issue. This has nothing to do with the quality of the song. It just seems backwards and points to the problems of having an industry that has so much influence over what is and is not "Christian". It's confusing to the audience. There maybe truth in the song, that isn't the issue. We'll see how this trend continues and what kind of inclusions are made. I guarantee there are no major concerns with truth in this situation. The "appearance" of truth maybe. This is a commercial enterprise and money drives all content.

PermalinkPermalink 08/08/07 @ 20:06
Comment from: Jill [Visitor] Email
So, I was listening to AirOne and heard the song "Home" by Daughtry being played. This is a song sung by a "secular" artist about going home to his wife, girlfriend, lover?? I looked up the lyrics and he is clearly not talking about going "home" to heaven as I think maybe AirOne is hoping we will interpret it. I personally wonder why AirOne chose this specific song to play on their station. I think there are a lot of "secular" songs that we can "Christian-ize". Actually, I know there are cuz Eric loves to point them out to me. Thoughts??
PermalinkPermalink 08/08/07 @ 14:16
Comment from: Eric [Visitor] Email
I was being a bit facetious with the word "secularize" in my shopping comment. Here is what I have been thinking through lately, although admittedly flawed.

My point is to take any truth and separate it from God is dangerous (other than sin, although you could certainly throw sin's consequences in that category). Let's take hunting, is there any mandate not to hunt in scripture. You can probably make the argument from either side. Whether you believe that we have the authority over animals in God's creation or that we should respect God's creation and thus not hunt for sport. Can I honor God by not hunting? Can I honor God by going hunting? Would both sides be true, I believe so.

However, if I draw a line in the sand (again that has no mandate from scripture) and say Christians are hunters (again facetious) then I may create and define what a Christian is inaccurately. Some have defined a Christian as a right wing republican, that belongs to the NRA, doesn't drink, smoke, cuss, one that separates music and literature into two categories (Christian and secular, okay and not okay), one that is not an artist unless you paint like Thomas Kinkade, wears Christian apparel, practices americanized Christianity, and eats red meat.

Not so sure that's how a Christ follower should be defined.

And no I am not saying liking, doing, or being any of those things is wrong.

BTW, thanks for the advice John. Good stuff!

PermalinkPermalink 08/08/07 @ 12:07
Comment from: Courtney Stubbert [Visitor] Email
No Worries John,
As long as we're clear you can argue with me all you want. We can still drink beers together;-) I respect your opinions always.

Totbo... I think we should define clearly what we mean by "truth". Perhaps you are getting at the implications of personal taste? Truth may be involved eventually, and shopping and hunting can both be seen as being political and economical statements, however I think shopping has a different (greater?) societal impact. I don't have a problem with hunting. For aesthetic reasons, hunting with a gun doesn't appeal to me but I've never done it. I like fishing myself, which essentially the same thing.

Placing moral judgment over taking the life of an animal has a lot to do with your worldview (this is where "truth" starts making noise) and there are definitely areas were we as Christians can take the "Cultural Mandate" to far (divine providence... ask your local native american what they think of our "cultural mandate"). I don't think hunting is in the same category (though some would disagree I suppose- but I don't worry about the evangelical implications of hunting over our commercial, artistic, media activities). Or rather, it is an activity that happens away from the culture at large whereas, shopping (commerce in general) takes place within the mainstream cultural landscape. I'm not sure if that makes sense. We all shop and so there are stakes we all have in it, hunting is more isolated. There is a discussion there I think and an understanding of who responds to that example in regards to it's relationship to the truth could be a meaningful place of discussion to someone. I had animal-loving vegan friend tell me once she could never be a Christian because a God who instructed the Jews to make animal sacrifice was no God she could follow. Though I thought it was crazy talk at the time, one has to take someones world view seriously in order to "love them as yourself".

The important thing is to understand it in it's larger context. Maybe that is what I'm always trying to get at and explain (defend) in these discussions. The individualistic American sensibility tends to create a separation of actions from the rest of the world. It may be American, but is it Christlike? And then what are the implications of the "yes" or "no" answers?

"Lucy! You got some esplainin' to do."

PermalinkPermalink 08/08/07 @ 02:30
Comment from: totbo [Visitor] Email
CS (and others),
I think I get your main point. It makes sense for the most part. You think about things deeper than I do. But I believe you do care.

I know this conversation is dying, but I want to make sure you know what Im talking about with the shopping thing. That was a bad example. Lets try hunting. It might be true that I like hunting and you do not. It is true that hunting is something I like to do. It is true that you do not [lets just say]. So my truth is different than yours.

What do you think?

Oh yeah what's up with country music?
PermalinkPermalink 08/07/07 @ 23:30
Comment from: John [Visitor] Email
First, I apologize to Courtney for the final sentence he quoted from my last statement. It was flippant and as you stated at the start, you take this stuff as serious as a heart attack. I don't conform to anything very easily. Simply put, I disagree with your view of the negative socio-economic impact of the Christian music industry versus the weight that it can carry by giving a positive message of hope to the masses. Could we do without it? Yes, but I still see it as an important tool to spread hope, and I am glad to see it thriving.

Rock On.....or Saddle Up?

BTW, Eric, help your kids through it and explain what the words mean as they hear them, then encourage them to choose what comes out of their own mouths wisely. But remember, they may not, and their school will let you know when that happens.hehe.

ttfn

PermalinkPermalink 08/07/07 @ 15:03
Comment from: Courtney Stubbert [Visitor] Email
This conversation is starting to get fragmented. I'm having a hard time following agreement/disagreement. John, I can't tell if you are being flippant or serious (the problem with blogging and email in general). Your statement:

"Do we "need" any worldly things? No.
Should we discount the validity of all worldly things? HMMMM. "Christ will take advantage of whatever medium we have. That doesn't mean we can't replace it with a better one." Who is in charge here? Are we in need of another subculture to combat the newly formed modern day American Christian Subculture? American culture is pretty young, if you want to compare it to the world. It is not perfect, but which culture is? Let me know so I can quickly conform."

I'm not sure how you intended this. But I would say that I do not advocate "combating" the subculture. We have the problem of sub-culture combat already. But rather reloading the current sub-culture (which will always exist-getting rid of the Christian music industry does not equate the sub-culture) with knowledge of the culture at large. In some instances it DOES require judgment- though not of people directly, they are implicated indirectly(which is an important topic). Standards and quality must be discussed, addressed and Christians should be smart enough to articulate the problem they may or may not have with a given thing or commodity, be it music, art or television. The problem as I currently see it is an uninformed and lax believer means an uninformed and lax consumer. Without proper understanding we fall back into knee-jerk, reactionary censorship, and selfish consumerism rather than thoughtful engagement. There will always be debate over quality and there should be. But at a certain point something has to shift on our side of the fence.

Totbo, I personally don't like christian bookstores as I think they are unnecessary. That doesn't mean anyone else can't or shouldn't shop there. But if I were to be pressed I would say that when it comes to Form over Content, which is at the core of this whole discussion, it should be bothersome to see the imbalance that is present in a Christian bookstore. I can get C.S Lewis and Rob Bell anywhere. But I don't think those stores exist for that. They largely exist for pointless trinkets and ridiculous examples of Christian capitalism gone bad. They seek, unintentionally perhaps, to homogenize Christianity.

To address your general shopping question, the "act" of shopping is not the problem. I'm not sure what you mean by a "secular or "christian" shopping experience. To say that our shopping experience can be blessed by God is true enough, but that internalizes it. That has to do with your personal framework. It is spiritually responsible to be a good steward with God's money and acknowledge God's provisions. My perspective though is that shopping as an "act" is an external, economic and political statement that ties us to the world at large. It is outward and relates to our larger communities (we should think of this in evangelistic terms). So unless we shop on magical islands where products appear out of thin air, we participate in everything from child labor to ozone depletion. Our public perception of Jesus Christ is implicated and shaped when we shop at these bookstores. Regardless of how we feel about them.

Now this is not to say that all the stuff in Christian bookstores are bad, but how much pointless stuff do we need tied to the Truth of Christ. Save the trivial for late night vegging with Ryan Seacrest. Air One and Christian bookstores fulfill a desire, not an essential need. The "need" is for Christ to be dynamic and alive in peoples lives.

And Tracy;-), First I would have to ask what you mean by "country" music. If I were to assume you meant Tim McGraw and that dude who plugs Ford Trucks I would say that, as I previously stated, it is a question of Form over Content. The truth takes many forms. The content is what is important. Truth can be found in mainstream pop country just like it can be in Slayer and Wu-tang Clan. This topic can descend into madness when we start talking aesthetic value and beauty. The last 100 years of art have been over that question... for another day...

This discussion is really about what we as Christians put out into the world, isn't it? That includes how we participate as consumers, how we respond to media and the media we make. We are putting statements out into the world. What is the content of these statements?
PermalinkPermalink 08/06/07 @ 20:15
Comment from: tracy [Member] Email
Eric,

In regard to what music you let your kids listen to, try (and don't think I'm smoking something here) country music. Yeah, some of the lyrics fall into "typical" country lyrics (i.e., dog died, check out the hot chick in the bar, my truck is broken, etc.), but there are some really good songs out there that reference real issues in a real way.

Wonder what Courtney thinks about country music...
(can't believe I just asked that question)

Tracy
PermalinkPermalink 08/06/07 @ 13:36
Comment from: Eric [Member] Email
Totbo,

I love what you are adding to the discussion.
Yes, I believe that truth is always true. In light of your "true shopping" question...It is true that one can believe shopping is good, yes. They can even be thankful and blessed in their shopping experience and actually see it as a blessing from God. Even if i do not agree, it doesn't make it any less true.

If I secularize a shopping experience (this is getting kind of weird with the shopping example) :) I miss the opportunity to realize that God is involved. Also, if I am seeing the shopping experience as secular, would I be more likely or less likely to damage the experience by over spending and creating the consequence of debt? This is what I mean by claiming all truth as God's truth. Am I looking too deep? Maybe. But I think I'd rather error on this end.

Again, I highly suggest Velvet Elvis by Rob Bell. There is a chapter that really got me thinking about this (amongst other things)in a new light.
PermalinkPermalink 08/06/07 @ 12:57
Comment from: Eric [Member] Email
I love it! John you make some valid points. Does there need to be an adult section in the Christian bookstore? I don't think so, but it would be funny. And I feel the same way with profanity around my kids. But I know the day is coming probably sooner than I think when I will have to help my kids discern through the mess to find the truth. And when my kids are old enough to buy their own music, hopefully I will be doing the same thing. And as a parent I find it easier to just turn it on the local Christian radio station, or just turn the tv on nickelodeon and not be involved with what they are actually listening to or watching or helping them wade through what they are watching and listening to. And in doing so I am guilty of being a lazy parent. Regardless, one day they will hear and say curse words, see hate, crime, sex, drugs, and rock & roll! :) I need to decide, would it be better to help them through all that or just let them figure it out on their own? And at what age do I let loose the reigns and let them be exposed to some of that and to what extent or do I just wait for it to happen and trust that when the time comes they will take that to me.
PermalinkPermalink 08/06/07 @ 12:34
Comment from: John [Visitor] Email
Yes, Yes, and Yes. And everything God says is true. Don't confuse truth with a personal value system. Just because Christians may not agree about everything going on around them does not mean they do not agree on God's Word.
John
PermalinkPermalink 08/06/07 @ 00:54
Comment from: totbo [Visitor] Email
CS (or whoever),
Okay, so I'm wondering would you buy something at a christian bookstore? Based on your thoughts, they fit an Air One example. Or would you ever work at a christian place? Would you support these things?

Also, I'm still not buying that all truth is true. Something that is true for me is not necessarily true for another person. Are we meaning something God said is true?
PermalinkPermalink 08/06/07 @ 00:41
Comment from: John [Visitor] Email
Do we "need" any worldly things? No.
Should we discount the validity of all worldly things? HMMMM. "Christ will take advantage of whatever medium we have. That doesn't mean we can't replace it with a better one." Who is in charge here? Are we in need of another subculture to combat the newly formed modern day American Christian Subculture? American culture is pretty young, if you want to compare it to the world. It is not perfect, but which culture is? Let me know so I can quickly conform.

Let's not forget our commission and let's remember not to judge others. It is up to the individual to be discerning of what is appropriate and at what time. We must adapt to the time and audience to get the message across.....then leave the rest up to God. Individually, we can then nurture that spirit....as best we can, by grace.
PermalinkPermalink 08/06/07 @ 00:22
Comment from: Courtney Stubbert [Visitor] Email
First I would say to John and Totbo that the fact that people "need" AirOne is part of the problem. Our culture has created a "need" for milk-toast spirituality. Indeed the aforementioned banned record probably speaks Truth in a more profound way. That kind of attention getting may be getting closer to what is needed for our age to start paying attention to deeper problems. I'm not sure I would justify Air One by the old saying that "If just one is saved, then it pleases God." That is pleases God is a given. I know John doesn't ascribe limits to God's capabilities and we know that God uses the fallen crap of the world for his own ends. MY point is that if we are going to police ourselves then lets start being real about what it is we are policing. Language (negligible) over the Truth of God's love (not negligible). For us to be serious about keeping Christ relevant to our time and culture we have to be willing to stop being protective of trite and constructed institutions like "Christian" radio. I'm not talking about the music persay and we should make distinctions when we are talking about the commercial enterprises versus the artistic(which one could argue taste over quality). The negative affect of the commerlization of Christ should be spoken out against in most cases (the exemptions should be discussed but not here) because because it is far more damaging to how many people come to understand our faith. Christ will take advantage of whatever medium we have. That doesn't mean we can't replace it with a better one. America still subconsciously buys the myth that capitalism is a gift from God and part of our mandate to subdue the earth.

If we created it then we can do away with it. God will use what ever means we provide and be pleased.
PermalinkPermalink 08/05/07 @ 12:51
Comment from: John [Visitor] Email
Eric,
Regarding your comments from 8/02, do you think someone is removed from the christian subculture because an artists record is pulled from the book store because of the use of profanity? The radio stations, the bookstores, the churches, the church sponsored functions need to be family friendly. When the masses are being addressed, we need to police ourselves. We can be real, but we must choose our words wisely.
I really don't think we need to keep an adult section in the christian bookstores. I can agree with the what Mr. House (hehe) is saying too, and profanity does not bother me... unless my kids are around.

PermalinkPermalink 08/05/07 @ 00:12
Comment from: Jill [Visitor] Email
Came across this today and thought I'd throw it out there. Just something interesting I came across after reading this blog. Not sure how much it has to do with the discussion that is going on but....again, I thought it was an interesting article.

www.slate.com/id/2171430/?GT1=10346
PermalinkPermalink 08/03/07 @ 13:58
Comment from: John [Visitor] Email
Well Eric, you certainly started discussion with this one. Is the Bible all true? I think we all agree that it is. Does the Bible contain all that is true? No. True is true, and humans are experts at distorting it, disguising it, and sometimes making a buck off of it. Air One is not bad. The Christian rock industry is not bad. If one person is led to a life with Christ because a seed was planted through this method, it pleases God. We must realize that we are all a part of this world and not shut anything or anyone out if it risks losing one that could be saved.

Totbo, shopping is great.....spending more than you have is not. True is true.
PermalinkPermalink 08/02/07 @ 23:36
Comment from: totbo [Visitor] Email
CS/Eric,
You guys make some good points.
Eric is truth always true? I havent found that to be true in all cases. I mean its true I think shopping is good, but you might not agree. Help.

About Air ONe, they may be meeting a need for some people, I'm not sure I want to say one way or another if it is bad or not. Are you guys saying things like Air One are bad?
PermalinkPermalink 08/02/07 @ 20:57
Comment from: Eric [Member] Email
I can understand the red flag mentality, Christian subculture is defining what Christianity is and what Christ is. Air One's tag line is "the positive alternative". Isn't it more important for music to be true than to be positive? I read my bible not for the positive message...but for the truth. I search for Christ not in my quest for positivity, but for truth. In their own advertisement they are providing a "lazy" escape (although valid at times.)

Truth can be convicting, positivity can be flowery, truth can be hard to swallow, positivity can be false, Truth is always true.

Griffin House, recently had his CD pulled from Christian bookstores because of his use of profanity when he said that, "Never again, am I going to give my heart over to a "BS" cause, I had enough of lies and dark. Never again am I going to waste my time on a "BS" road, never been a friend of mine." I can relate to that.

What is our fear? That people are going to start saying the word? The destruction of our virgin ears? Why do we police his use of profanity? Why do we remove him from the Christian subculture, defining what a Christian is (someone that doesn't use profanity)? I guess when he cleans his act up then we will accept him.

Also, the idea that the radio station is announcing that they are praying for people sounds a bit more like advertising and a little less like ministry. Following more of the Pharisee example than Christ's example.

In creating our own subculture my fear is that we are becoming more and more like the Pharisees and less like Christ. A struggle that I find myself in more often than I would like.

In addition, another book you might want to check out in regards of claiming all truth as God's truth, read Velvet Elvis by Rob Bell.
PermalinkPermalink 08/02/07 @ 14:29
Comment from: Courtney Stubbert [Visitor] Email
By "lazy" I mean to say that our culture seems to reflect a lack of critical analysis on the part of the consumer. One can complain about the "garbage" on t.v. (for example) but it is a two way street. It's on because we watch it. Those who make television programming decisions respond in kind by tailoring the shows that attract advertising dollars. They have a formula, and we have come to respond to the formula- and on and on it goes. What is purchased is reflected by what we watch and vice versa. At some point, someone has to stop passively participating in the culturally constructed patterns and roles and actively critique and participate. Not to make something that is different or "Christian" but something that resonates and is relevant.
"Lazy" means passive. We are all guilty of it. I love to switch off after a long day and just veg out on pointless entertainment. But that doesn't mean I stop filtering and being aware of the fact that I am a demographic. I laugh at the Geico caveman ads because I respond to surreal juxtapositions and dry sarcasm. They got me. But I am aware that I am who they are after. I will tear up any and all Geico junk mail I ever get:-)
Christian Music: There is nothing wrong with Christian music. It has it's place. It serves a need. It can be beautiful and moving and alter my mental state. Unfortunately it is not that simple. My question would be are you listening to it because it is "Christian"? What does that mean? Some may see this as cynical, but just as with anything in America, it can be commodified. This creates a problematic situation. We now have a conflation of emotion, a persons spiritual "mindset", money (which by association brings in economics and politics) and an assumption of "Truth". Don't forget demographics, which are tied to our emotional responses. It is a chicken/egg question. What makes something "Christian"? In our society that definition is a tangled mess. That is what I mean when I say "we've lost." Where is our faith in relationship to our culture? Is it represented by what we buy? That is exactly how the music industry sees it. To see it any other way is naive. There are good honest people in the industry of course. But that doesn't justify or exonerate anything.

American Christianity is largely a market driven cultural construction. The Truth of Christ's love and salvation on the cross has been bought and sold to the point that we are unable to communicate meaningful truth with any lasting affect. The question we should we be asking ourselves is "Do I know what part's of my faith are constructed by my society? Which are rooted in Christ?"
If it can be bought or sold then it stands on shaky ground.
Reading: Francis Schaeffer's "How should we then live" is a very accessible explanation of western civilization's developing thought up to the modern era. Nancy Pearcy's "Total Truth" really breaks down the problems and issues in American Christianity from a historical perspective. Marshall Mcluhan's "The Medium is the Message" is not too difficult either. This along with Neil Postman's "Amusing ourselves to death" are good discussions on culture and media and the shift to an image based society from one rooted in text.
I'm typing in a hurry so I'm not sure if I hit all your points. Email me if I'm not clear on something. I take this dialog as seriously as a heart attack.
PermalinkPermalink 08/01/07 @ 20:17
Comment from: Erik [Visitor] Email
CS,
Lots of good points. Okay, time for questions. I think I understand the subjectivness thing. Are you saying christians are lazy when choosing to listen to christian music? Is it Okay to like Christian music? Or what do you mean by "we've lost"? I think you have a point about red flagging stuff. That does seem kinda odd. Your reading list is a big one. Right now that kinda stuff seems too out there for me. Anything more simple?
PermalinkPermalink 08/01/07 @ 12:07
Comment from: Courtney Stubbert [Visitor] Email
I'm not angry with anyone. That Air One makes claims to their "effectiveness" as a witnessing tool is their prerogative and also necessary in gaining support for them to stay on the air. (Check yourself and our economic system before you think that is a harsh statement) But as far as I'm concerned it is a claim and nothing more. If we passively accept those claims as justification for poor standards in art and music, not to mention using the "winning people for Christ" trope as a marketing tool then we've lost. It is so easy to say those things. It is so easy to write a song, put the word "Jesus" in it and say that you are honoring God. The problem at this point in the argument is that we can start questioning individual motives and no one wants to do that because you inevitably get to individual subjective interpretations of motive. Not my place. But an active consumer should be aware enough to be able to take all the pieces of the puzzle together and see patterns and attitudes that shape huge portions of society. Ultimately this conversation becomes one of "What do you care about?" I happen to care immensely about culture and Christianity's place in it. This involves all aspects of art, media, politics, scholarship, advertising and economics. I would only consider myself educated in areas of art, music, and media because that is what I have studied extensively, in school and on my own. Air One and Magic 94 (brace yourself) fulfill the same function. They both create environments (largely within a mental space) where one can switch off and not be threatened and feel good. Air One goes further with employing shotgun blasts of scripture using the same editing techniques (pace, cutting) as contemporary advertising as a way to fill up the spaces in between songs (just as advertising does).
It is a slippery slope, because music has many purposes. People do listen to music to feel good. That's okay. I do it. But in American society especially we have become increasingly tolerant (and lazy) at passively accepting the signs and symbols of our culture and equating them with emotional responses (google Pavlov). We want to feel good. We want familiar. We don't want to be challenged.
Newsflash: Our personal comfort is not at the top of God's to-do list. If the Word is to remain a vibrant, dynamic, active and life changing force in humanity, we as Christians must insist that it not be sold to us as soft-serve, easy to use, systematized, bit-sized spectacle. The attempts of the last 30 at making Christianity look like the culture have resulted in a flaccid, laughable showcase of bad literature, poor art, and hypocritical economics. Not to mention a Christianity that has little substance.
I understand the harsh nature of my language, but believe me it is not angry. Anger gets you nowhere and I care far to much about the American church to be that simplistic. It is really complicated, and it should be. As believers we should be forging our culture, challenging it, staying in dialog with it, and be the best and most articulate critics around. Not police who merely go around red flagging records and movies because of "dirty words and boobies". We have to be smarter than that.
Pictures, words, context, motivation, money- all these things are part of the engine of our culture. They can carry immense meaning or they can be passively accepted and thrown away. How do we then proceed? Be active. Learn about your society. Read Marshall Mcluhan and Neil Postman. Read Francis Schaeffer, and Nancy Pearcy. Figure out what Hegel, Kant, Keirkegaard and Marx all have in common and how their ideas have shaped our society. You can connect philosophy and art to advertising.
Don't be overwhelmed. Just start somewhere. Knowing your bible verses will only carry you so far in relating to you society. You have to understand the in's and out's of how we communicate and why.

That was a lot. Please ask for clarification as I do not want my statements to be confusing, though I'm sure I managed to be. Blogs are really mediated rants after all;-)
PermalinkPermalink 07/30/07 @ 22:24
Comment from: totbo [Visitor] Email
CS,
Are you angry at the Christian music labels or the performers or the listeners? I tried Air 1 the other day and they said they prayed with lots of people. They also said lots of people came to Christ or something like that. Whats so bad about that? Im not a music expert, maybe I'm missing something.
PermalinkPermalink 07/27/07 @ 00:15
Comment from: Courtney Stubbert [Visitor] Email
Eric,
Jeez. I have no time to answer this as fully and with the intensity I think the subject deserves. You've heard my rants enough so I'll keep it short... and maybe provoke a response in someone else...

The "Christian Music Industry" should be done away with altogether. This is not to say that their shouldn't be artist's who profess biblical values in their music (it's a cash cow, many labels would welcome them into the fold). Understandably, the "industry" is a bi-product of American economics and American Christianity. This subculture we have has made amazing allowances for magnificently low standards for art making and worshiping God in general. Another negative of this subculture is the "circle the wagons and pat ourselves on the back" mentality that really only serves our culture in producing a lack of ability to analyze and engage the culture of the world as intelligent creations. Instead we retreat and reduce the Word to marketable propaganda (Air 1). This should be upsetting. As Christians and consumers we should be unwilling to accept such low standards and mind-numbing commercialism under the heading of "Christian".
Music is, as John said, a powerful tool. It can be used for God's glory. Unfortunately as a result of Christian music standards we have bizarre lines drawn in the sand that dictate what is and is not glorifying to God.
In a nut shell, that is my initial reaction...
PermalinkPermalink 07/25/07 @ 11:55
Comment from: john [Visitor] Email
Music.....what a powerful tool. It can
change the way we feel about the day we
are about live, and sometimes, change a
persons life. The christian music
industry has done a good job to spread
the word among those with various
musical tastes, and you are correct to
point out that the messenger should not
affect the message. The only problem
lies in the consistency of the message
throughout the artists library of music.
So many secular artists jump back and
forth in the message of their lyrics.
That is the only reason I can think of
for the cover tunes by christian artists
getting the airplay on christian stations.
Let's face it, the christian media is
serving the christian public. I have
often wondered how I would be treated
by a christian businessperson if I had
not first told them that I was also a
believer......hmmm.
PermalinkPermalink 07/20/07 @ 23:51

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